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Public Accounts Committee |
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Committee Room 3 - Senedd |
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Meeting date: |
Tuesday, 4 November 2014 |
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Meeting time: |
09.00 - 11.09 |
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Assembly Members: |
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Darren Millar AM (Chair) William Graham AM Mike Hedges AM Alun Ffred Jones AM Julie Morgan AM Jenny Rathbone AM Aled Roberts AM Sandy Mewies AM |
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Witnesses: |
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Professor Andrew Davies, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board Simon Dean, Welsh Government Rory Farrelly, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board Dr Andrew Goodall, Welsh Government Dr Ruth Hussey, Welsh Government Dr Hamish Laing, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board Paul Roberts, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board |
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Committee Staff: |
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Michael Kay (Clerk) Claire Griffiths (Deputy Clerk) Joanest Varney-Jackson (Legal Adviser) Dave Thomas (Wales Audit Office) Huw Vaughan Thomas (Auditor General for Wales) |
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Transcript
View the meeting transcript.
1 Introductions, apologies and substitutions
1.1 The Chair welcomed the Members to Committee.
2 Papers to note
2.1 The papers were noted.
2.1 Intra-Wales - Cardiff to Anglesey - Air Service: Letter from James Price (6 October 2014)
2.2 Scrutiny of Commissioners’ Accounts 2013-14: Letter from the Public Services Ombudsman for Wales (14 October 2014)
2.3 The Well-being of Future Generations (Wales) Bill: Letter to the Auditor General for Wales (14 October 2014)
2.4 Scrutiny of Arts Council of Wales Annual Report 2013-14: Letter from Nick Capaldi (17 October 2014)
2.5 EU Structural Funds update: Letter from Sir Derek Jones (21 October 2014)
2.6 Grants Management in Wales: Letter from Sir Derek Jones (22 October (2014)
3 NHS Wales Health Board’s Governance
3.1 The Committee scrutinised Dr Andrew Goodall, Director General, Health and Social Services and Chief Executive of NHS Wales, Simon Dean, Deputy Chief Executive NHS Wales, and Dr Ruth Hussey, Chief Medical Officer, Welsh Government on NHS Wales Health Board’s Governance, in particular issues arising from Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board.
3.2 Dr Hussey declared an interest as being related to the Chair of Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board.
3.3 Dr Goodall agreed to send details of the financial costs of additional support for Betsi Cadwaladr University Health Board including the use of locums and agency nurses, and the names of all the co-opted Board Members together with details of their skills and remuneration packages (if appropriate). He also agreed to provide further detail and a timeline on the Health Standards Framework for NHS Wales Green Paper which the Minister for Health and Social Services announced on 3 November 2014.
3.4 Dr Goodall agreed to give consideration to announcing the level of intervention at each health board more publicly, perhaps on my local health website.
4 NHS Wales Health Board’s Governance
4.1 The Committee scrutinised Professor Andrew Davies, Chair, Paul Roberts, Chief Executive, Rory Farrelly, Director of Nursing and Patient Experience and Hamish Laing, Medical Director, Abertawe Bro Morgannwg University Health Board on NHS Wales Health Board’s Governance.
5 Motion under Standing Order 17.42 to resolve to exclude the public from the meeting for the following business:
5.1 The motion was agreed.
6 NHS Wales Health Board’s Governance: Consideration of evidence received
6.1 The Committee discussed the evidence received and agreed that the Chair should write to Dr Andrew Goodall, Director General, Health and Social Services and Chief Executive of NHS Wales, seeking clarification on the distribution of the additional in-year financial resources for health boards in 2014-15.